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Andorra la Vella Parish (Andorra)

Andorra la Vella Parròquia

Uncertain Status

image by António Martins-Tuválkin, 30 Jul 2009 Proposal

image by Sophie Rault, 17 Sep 2003 No Information

image by Mello Luchtenberg, 30 Jul 2009

Description

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Description

In a tourist prospectus about Andorra, I saw a picture showing a conference room, shot from the last rows, with a flag on the stage. The flag was a blue-yellow-red tricolour, but the coat-of-arms had a blue field with something white around [a cartouche?] and undistinguishable charges, perhaps green-coloured. Unfortunately, the flag in the picture was too small to get any more details than this. Here is a scan. Maybe this is an Andorran subnational flag?

Jorge Candeias, 16 Apr 2002

The arms might be that of Andorra la Vella, the Andorran capital, as shown in this webpage.

Santiago Dotor, 25 Jan 2005

We report something that might be a parish flag, maybe improvised and/or one-off, but unmistakably a photo of a blue-yellow-red tricolor with a CoA on the central panel that is definitely neither version of the national arms and looks very much like the older version of the communal/parochial arms of Andorra la Vella, mainly blue.

The parochial arms of Andorra la Vella as used currently seem to include only an oval shield with open golden crown with 5 stems and gems, as in this Wikimedia image, while a previously used depiction included a green scroll or decoration ribbon, a wreath of two different branches and wide edging around the shield, which can be taken either as a bordure or as an ornament of the shield. At the principality's official website, I found a single web usage of this older depiction, which seems to be the one shown on the mystery non-national tricolor.

On both depictions the arms are Vert three pales wavy Azure (which goes against the rule of tinctures?)

The parish administration of Andorra la Vella (Comú d'Andorra la Vella) uses a logo showing a stylized version of the CoA (recognizably of is former depiction), reduced to a single pale, with conspicuous bordure/edging, oval shield with a point at the bottom, and simplified crown. This logo is geometrically made up of solid shapes placed nearby, its gaps in stencil-style. The single pale on the shield field is thus made of three shapes, separated by two wavy gaps.

This logo (visible in single-color use on the façade of the parochial government facilities as shown in the two photos found by Marcus Schmöger) can be also used officially in color: golden, green and blue, as in a ~2:3 white flag with this logo centered on it (taking slightly over the flags's height).

A banner of these stylized arms (Vert a pale wavy Azure and a bordure Or) is shown on Mello Luchtenberg's Vexilla Mundi website, with no source (direct image link). This depiction includes a white fimbriation around the inside of the bordure and golden fimbriation separating the pale from the background, which seems to be a poor interpretation of the stylized arms. Mello, where does this come from?

António Martins-Tuválkin, 30 Jul 2009

[The white flag with logo centered] was proposed on September 17, 2003 by an eminent heraldist, HE Malta's Ambassador to The Hague Adrian Strickland (with the Andorra la Vella COA researched by NAVA Member Sophie Rault) to his colleague HE Meritxell Mateu, Ambassador of Andorra to the Netherlands, who in turn will direct proposal into the proper Andorran channels. The flag is in the same 2:3 proportions as the Andorran national flag.

Peter Orenski, 30 Sep 2003